Playground equipment for children - Part 1: Replies to requests for interpretation of EN 1176:2017 and its parts (2018-2019)

The purpose of this document is to publish replies to requests for interpretations, to all parts of EN 1176, which have been drafted by the interpretation panel and confirmed by CEN/TC136/SC1.

Kinderspielplatzgeräte - Teil 1: Antworten zu Interpretationsanfragen der Jahre 2018 und 2019 zur EN 1176:2017 und deren Teilen

Équipements d'aires de jeux pour enfants - Partie 1: Réponses aux demandes d'interprétation de l'EN 1176:2017 et de ses parties (2018-2019)

L’objectif du présent Rapport technique du CEN est de publier les réponses aux demandes d’interprétation concernant toutes les parties de l’EN 1176, qui ont été formulées par le panel d’interprétation et validées par le CEN/TC 136/SC 1.

Oprema otroških igrišč - Odgovori na zahteve za razlago EN 1176:2017 in njegovih delov (2018-2019)

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Oprema otroških igrišč - Odgovori na zahteve za razlago EN 1176:2017 in njegovih
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Playground equipment for children - Part 1: Replies to requests for interpretation of EN

1176:2017 and its parts (2018-2019)

Kinderspielplatzgeräte - Teil 1: Antworten zu Interpretationsanfragen der Jahre 2018 und

2019 zur EN 1176:2017 und deren Teilen
Équipements d'aires de jeux pour enfants - Partie 1: Réponses aux demandes
d'interprétation de l'EN 1176:2017 et de ses parties (2018-2019)
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FINAL DRAFT
TECHNICAL REPORT
FprCEN/TR 17842-1
RAPPORT TECHNIQUE
TECHNISCHER BERICHT
June 2022
ICS
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Playground equipment for children - Part 1: Replies to
requests for interpretation of EN 1176:2017 and its parts
(2018-2019)

Équipements d'aires de jeux pour enfants - Partie 1: Kinderspielplatzgeräte - Teil 1: Antworten zu

Réponses aux demandes d'interprétation aux normes Interpretationsanfragen der Jahre 2018 und 2019 zur

EN 1176:2017 et toutes ses parties (2018-2019) EN 1176:2017 und deren Teilen

This draft Technical Report is submitted to CEN members for Vote. It has been drawn up by the Technical Committee CEN/TC

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Contents Page

European foreword ...................................................................................................................................................... 3

Introduction .................................................................................................................................................................... 4

1 Scope .................................................................................................................................................................... 6

2 Normative references .................................................................................................................................... 6

3 Terms and definitions ................................................................................................................................... 6

4 EN 1176-1:2017, Playground equipment and surfacing — Part 1: General safety

requirements and test methods .................................................................................................................. 6

5 EN 1176-2:2017, Playground equipment and surfacing — Part 2: Additional specific

safety requirements and test methods for swings .............................................................................. 28

6 EN 1176-3:2017, Playground equipment — Part 3: Additional specific safety

requirements and test methods for slides ............................................................................................. 32

7 EN 1176-5:2019 - Playground equipment and surfacing — Part 5: Additional specific

safety requirements and test methods for carousels ......................................................................... 34

8 EN 1176-6:2017+AC:2019, Playground equipment — Part 6: Additional specific safety

requirements and test methods for rocking equipment ................................................................... 35

9 EN 1176-11:2014, Playground equipment and surfacing — Part 11: Additional

specific safety requirements and test methods for spatial network ............................................. 38

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European foreword

This document (FprCEN/TR 17842-1:2022) has been prepared by Technical Committee CEN/TC 136

“Sports, playground and other recreational facilities and equipment”, the secretariat of which is held by

DIN.
This document is currently submitted to the Vote on TR.
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Introduction
Interpretations and no-action decisions

This document contains all interpretations since CEN/TR 16396 to the end of 2019. It should bring a

close to all interpretations made to the 2020 version of EN 1176 and all of its specific parts that were

also revised in 2020. It contains replies to requests for interpretations concerning the understanding of

clauses in the parts of EN 1176. The replies concern those requests that have resulted in an

interpretation or a decision that no action is required as the standard is sufficiently clear.

An interpretation does not have the same status as the text of the standard. However, following an

interpretation gives assurance that the relevant clause of the standard has been correctly applied.

An interpretation is a clarification of the meaning of the standard. This document covers requests from

2018 to the end of 2019.
Disclaimer

The interpretations have been prepared by the interpretation panel of CEN/TC 136/SC1 committee

according to an agreed process and finally confirmed by the whole SC1 committee prior to responding

back to the enquiring National Standard Body. The information contained herein should always be

considered in association with the original EN 1176:2017 published text.

Requests for interpretations may be submitted by a CEN member body through its national committee

or by a CEN/TC 136 liaison (but not directly by an individual or a company) – in accordance with the

interpretation protocols agreed by CEN/TC 136/SC 1. The requests are then channelled to the CEN/TC

136/SC 1 interpretation panel, which will then deal with the request.
A request for an interpretation may lead to:

a) an interpretation of the standard with no action to the standard (no revision and no amendment)

This should reflect a reasonable interpretation of how the standard should be used, taking into

account:
1) the wording of the standard;
2) the rationale of the standard;
3) the history of the standard.

This is also applicable when it is agreed that the standard appropriately specifies how playground

equipment is assessed.
b) a proposal for an amendment of the standard
This is applicable when it is agreed that the standard is deficient in some way.

NOTE Interpretation and no-action decisions are published in CEN/TR 16396 which will be updated on a

regular basis. Proposals for amendments will be progressed as new work item proposals in accordance with

CEN rules.
c) a future revision

It is not within the interpretation protocol to carry out new work that was not previously covered

within the published EN 1176 parts and clauses. Future work requests should always be raised by

National Standard Bodies using the “Future work request template” to ensure full consideration is

given to the necessity and possible consequences, before starting any new work on EN 1176.

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Answers to requests for interpretations

Since requests for interpretations are submitted through a CEN member body, it is assumed that the

member body will keep itself informed about decisions concerning the request and its progress and will

itself inform the originator of the request, as appropriate.
The following information requests have been included in this document:
2018

2018-01 NO — Part 1 — 3.5, 3.20, 3.34-3, 4.2.8.2.3 General, 4.2.16.1 2nd Paragraph after Figure 26

2018-02 NO — Part 1— 4.2
2018-03 NO — Part 1 — 4.2.7.2
2018-04 NO — Part 1 — 4.2.7.2 part b and D.2.2
2018-05 DK — Part 2 — 3.13 and 4.6.3 in part 2:2017
2018-06 DS — Part 1 — 4.7 Hand support
2018-07 DS — Part 1 — 4.2.4.4 and Figure 10
2018-08 NO — Part 2 — Figure 6
2018-09 DE — Part 3 — 4.4.1 and Annex B
2018-10 NEN Part 1 — Figure D.7
2018-11 NEN—Part 1 — Figure D.13
2018-13 NO — Part 1 —4.2.7.3 Entrapment of clothing/hair
2018-15 NEN—Part 1 —4.2.16.1 General
2018-16 NEN—Part 1 —4.2.16
2019
2019-01 UNI Part 3 — 4.5, 4.7, 4.9.2
2019-09 LTL — Part 1 — 4.9 Entrapment
2019-10 LTL— Part 1 — 4.2.4.4 Barriers
2019-11 SIS — Part 1 — 6.2.16 Bouncing facilities
2019-12 HUN—Part 1 — 4.2.8.1
2019-13 DIN —Part 1 — 4.2.13 Chains
2019-14 UK — Part 2 — 3.13
2019-15 DIN— Part 1 — 4.2.16.1
2019-16 SIS — Part 2 — 3.13, 4.6.3 and 4.9
2019-17 SFS — Part 1 — 4.2.7.2
2019-18 SFS —Part 5 — 5.2.3

NOTE ASI — Austria, DS — Denmark, SFS — Finland, AFNOR — France, DIN — Germany, HUN – Hungary, SII

— Israel, — LVS — Latvia, LTL – Lithuania, NBN— Belgium, NEN — Netherlands, SN — Norway, SIS — Sweden,

SIST — Slovakia, SN — Switzerland, TSI — Turkey, GB — United Kingdom
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1 Scope

The purpose of this document is to publish replies to requests for interpretations, to all parts of

EN 1176, which have been drafted by the interpretation panel and confirmed by CEN/TC136/SC1.

2 Normative references
There are no normative references in this document.
3 Terms and definitions
No terms and definitions are listed in this document.
4 EN 1176-1:2017, Playground equipment and surfacing — Part 1: General safety
requirements and test methods
4.1 General (interpretation request 2018-01 — Norway)
Question

1. The standard allows placing several small bouncing facilities – each approximately between 1 m

to 1,44 m as for single users – together in a cluster, or in a row as part of a jump/stepping-trail

thus letting each bouncing equipment's free space of 1 500 mm overlap each other's free space, or

other equipment's falling space.
See Figure 1 below for example.

NB - We do appreciate that bouncing facilities demand free space/have forced movement as described

in 3.6 and, therefore, our opinion is that this is not allowed. Due to several installations that we do see

are in conflict with this, as others understand the standard differently, we therefore would like it to be

clarified.

We also appreciate that equipment in a cluster – 3.20 - is allowed for equipment not involving free

space/forced movement. A central and relevant question is therefore if one can deviate from the

demands related to free space if one places several equipment’s with or without forced movement in a

cluster?
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Figure 1
MB Proposal:

To exclude any misunderstanding or “use” of the cluster clause, this definition could be more precise:

That 3.20 includes information if a cluster is allowed or not for equipment with forced movement and in

need of free space.
Reply
No action/interpretation
Regarding Free Space:
From EN 1176-1:2017:

clause 3.6 free space; Space in, on or around the equipment that can be occupied by a user undergoing

a movement forced by the equipment.

NOTE 1 Examples for this is sliding, swinging, rocking, jumping in bouncing facility for several users…

clause 4.2.16.1 Bouncing facilities, general

For a bouncing facility the extent of the free space shall be 1 500 mm measured horizontally from any

point at the perimeter and 3 500 mm above the suspension bed

All bouncing facilities do have Free Space, however ‘Small’ bouncing facilities are allowed to have

overlapping Free Spaces in clusters.
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Regarding Clusters:
From EN 1176-1:2017:
clause 3.20 cluster;

two or more separate pieces of equipment designed to be installed in close proximity to each other

to provide continuity in a sequence that is needed for the play activity
NOTE An example for a cluster is a trail of stepping stones.

clause 4.2.8.3 Protection against injuries in the free space for users undergoing a movement that is

forced by the equipment

Unless stated otherwise, there shall be no overlapping of adjacent free spaces, or of free space and

falling space of two different pieces of equipment.

NOTE 1 This requirement does not apply to the common space between pieces of equipment in a cluster.

For information:

The current EN 1176 definition of a cluster requires ‘continuity in a sequence that is needed for the play

activity’. This allows the user to focus on the cluster activities in a way that will allow them to judge the

risks of transferring from one part to the next. In the case of clusters, it is also highlighted in 4.2.8.3,

NOTE 1 of EN 1176-1:2017, that overlapping of Free/Falling Space is permitted.

The example shown above, with ‘small’ bouncing suspension beds, is a typical equipment cluster,

therefore the free spaces may overlap, however the standard does not currently include any additional

specific requirements for clusters. This is purposely the case, to allow for flexibility in design. In the

case of bouncing facilities, as with other equipment clusters, a risk assessment should always be carried

out by the supplier to confirm any risks are suitably controlled, in providing this ‘continuity in a

sequence that is needed for the play activity’.

We would recommend that a future work request is made by the NSB if they feel there is a strong safety

case to start future work on products of the type shown, following the procedure agreed by SC1 (see

template in document SC1 N9002). This is to encourage the use of the template / matrix, and to avoid

duplication of work.
4.2 Scope (interpretation request 2018-02 Norway)
Clause 4.2
Question

This is regarding double tyre swing seats. These seats consist of one big car-tyre that has a smaller tyre

(often called security tyre) hanging under it – see Figure 2 below.

The new standard does not include information on ground clearance for tyre seats as in the previous

edition. Instead there is a description for single user seat with ground clearance 35 and group swing

seat with clearance demand 40.

What seat type does the standard define, a single tyre seat or a double tyre seat as shown in Figure 2

below; single user seat or group swing seat?

In the case of double tyre seat – see Figure 2 below, is the ground clearance demand applicable only for

the main top tyre or for the lower tyre as well?

NB – we often observe children standing on the lower tyre having the upper tyre supporting their body.

This has the effect that the lower tyre will not easily deflect if it hits or squeezes another child under it

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against the impact attenuating surface (IAS) under the swing as many seem to argue so that they can

justify that the ground clearance should only be measured from the top tyre.

Sentence 2 in the clause does not define where this measure is to be taken, and one presumes that this

is where the seat is closest to the IAS. Is this correct?

Sentence 3 deviates from sentence 2 for the part of swings being flexible. Is this to be seen in

conjunction with sentence 2 so that IF a part of a seat is flexible this part shall not be included for

measurement of ground clearance? (This would be easier to understand and see if both sentences were

included in the same sentence or paragraph.)

NB! – Here also we do see that flexible lower parts of seats, often with many children inside will not

necessarily deflect or prevent a child falling off the seat in the possibility to be squeezed under the seat

against the IAS.
Figure 2
Reply
No action/interpretation
This type of swing seat is not specifically covered in EN 1176.

We would recommend that a future work request is made by the NSB if they feel there is a strong

requirement to start future work on products of the type shown following the procedure agreed by SC1

(see template in document SC1 N9002). This is to encourage the use of the template / matrix, and to

avoid duplication of work.
For information we can confirm that:

This type of seat is special as it has a top section that provides a general sitting position and also has a

lower flexible part that would only provide a sitting position to very young children, who had their body

positioned within the top section. Prior to publication of EN 1176 swing seat ground clearances were

referenced in DIN 7926-2. This publication required a ground clearance of 250 mm for seats less than

1 000 g in weight. Although this old standard is no longer valid, the information could be used as part of

a risk assessment on the lower seat part.

In addition to the specific requirements of EN 1176, it is always recommended that a risk assessment is

carried out should unusual situations be identified.
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4.3 Clause 3.5 (interpretation request 2018-03 Norway)
EN 1176-1:2017, clause 4.2.7.2
MB Question:

This is regarding openings between 8,9 and 23 or within angles defined for v-shaped openings, all with

lowest part being above 60 over standing position and all with what we see as obvious possibility for

entrapment of head/neck that we cannot see described in the standard that we do think the standard

should address.
Or do these cases possibly lie within the descriptions that exist in any way?
We want to draw the committee’s attention to:

1. Partially bound rigid openings that consist of parallel or close to parallel sides that are

between 8,9 to 23 apart – see Figure 3 and Figure 4.

2. Flexible V-shaped openings with a lower edge above 60 between two flexible sides or one

flexible side and one rigid side – see Figure 5.
3. Partially bound rigid Horizontal opening - in what we here call “arm-walk”.
See Figures 3 to 5 and texts that should explain this.

If we – for the case of further easing our argument - may be so bold as to assume that the committee

agrees with our examples in that they do in fact represent obvious hazards the standard should include

/ address we would like the following to be clarified for each situation:
1. Is there any clause in the existing standard that covers this situation?

2. If no in question 1; if the committee agrees with our view that this is a hazard that should be

abolished – how do we go about it?

3. If the committee does NOT agree with our view that this is a hazard we would very much appreciate

an explanation / reason for this.

1) Opening with parallel sides - between ledge and back side of ladder. A child wanting to pass through

the ladder or out the play house can get caught between the step in the ladder - the one just above the

blue opposite edge - and the blue edge of the play house. The ledges being paralleled for more than

50 cm gives the child little but no possibility to escape. This is per definition NOT a completely bound

opening and not a partially bound opening that deviates from D.2.2 test.
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Figure 3
Figure 4

1) Opening with parallel sides / ledges - here between climbing ladder and platform. A child falling or

wanting to climb down getting their head caught in the opening is not necessarily “lucky” enough to get

freed from entrapment to one of the sides. We do see that this has a lower risk than a rigid closed

opening and also at the same time see the possible hazard. The ledges are parallel for approximately

30 cm. This is per definition NOT a completely bound opening and not a partially bound opening that

deviates from D.2.2 test.
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a) b)
Figure 5
MB Proposal

Include these situations in the standards descriptions using the same templates that are used for other

openings.
PROPOSED TRACK: No action
Comments/proposal for an answer:

1. With reference to EN 1176-1:2017, 4.2.7.2 a) the situations shown are not ‘completely bound’ and

therefore do not require a test to comply with EN 1176.

2. & 3. In addition to the specific requirements of EN 1176, it is always recommended that a risk

assessment is carried out should unusual situations, not covered by EN 1176, be identified. (For

example, situations that are not completely bound but where entrapment risk could occur). It is

not within the terms of the interpretation panel to make judgements about risks relating to

specific pieces of equipment. It can very problematic to make judgements from photographs

alone.

The IP recommends that a proposal for amendment or future work is made by the NSB if they want to

present a “safety case”, following the procedure agreed by SC1 (see template in document SC1 N9002).

4.4 Clause 4.2.7.2 Part b and D.2.2 (interpretation request 2018-04 Norway)
MB Question
This is regarding:
1) Clarification of test method for range 2 and D.2.2; and

2) Clarification of need of template apex to contact base of the opening” in regards to angles.

Clause D.2.2.2 first paragraph describes the first step in testing and refers to Figure D.3. Figure D.3 only

shows examples where the opening is in range 1 thus making it possible to (mis)understand that this

first procedure only is to be done for openings in this range 1. We ask for a clarification on this.

Question 1) Does the first paragraph in D.2.2.2 apply and is to be executed as a first step of testing in

both range 1 and range 2?
(See examples in Figure 6 a) and b)
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Question 2) 4.2.7.2 part b) “Partially bound and V-shaped openings” does in its description under list

item 2) use the term(s) “When the templates apex contacts the base of the opening…” and by this laying

down that this has to be met when testing if the opening shall be able to pass the test.

(NB – “apex” is here understood as the 4,5 cm wide part in the tip of the template’s part A)

This is very seldom the case – that the apex gets in contact with the base of the angle/opening - because

angles most often have “angle sides” that continue further “in” and meet in a sharp “tip” thus will not

allow this to be the case - see Figure 7 a) and b) where the angle is narrower than 60° and Figure 8

where the angle is over 60° – all where the apex of the template does not come in contact with the base

of the opening.

As many angles do not comply with the mentioned descriptions in 4.2.7.2 part b), this makes it possible

to (mis)understand this text so that if an angle or opening does not allow the apex to contact the base,

because there is no base – it is a fail, even though the angle is within what the standard demands in

D.2.2.2 – being above 60°. This resulting in that angles that do comply with D.2.2.2 but does not allow

the template apex to contact the base can be interpreted as failing to comply with the standards

description in 4.2.7.2 part b) – see Figure 8.

A very strict understanding could be that angles that are accessible and do comply with D.2.2.2 when

tested, still will fail if the apex does not contact the base – because there is no base! And it just might be

that the standard intends it to be so. We think this needs to be clarified.

NB - We have been informed from a manufacturer that in fact one should use two D2 apparatuses – first

introducing one as in Question 1 – placing the neck part in the tip of the angle – and then testing the

above angle with the second apparatus on top/outside of this one. But we can find nothing to support

this.

And we do appreciate that 4.2.7.2 part b) is for describing how an angle should be in order to comply

with the standard, and that D.2.2.2, and specifically paragraph 4 under this clause, takes care of the test

procedure which is normally the case. This does still not solve the case.

We ask for a clarification that undoubtedly addresses the terms that apply for testing. If one by the

term “apex contacts the base of the opening” rather means that it is “the tips/corners of the apex on the

template where the apex “line” meets the angle sides - in the templates corners” we think this should be

clarified.
a) b)
Figure 6
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a) b)
Figure 7
Figure 8
PROPOSED TRACK: No action
Comments/proposal for an answer:
1. Yes

2. “Apex” includes front edges of the template. If the leading face or edges meet the opening’s edges,

the test passes.
For additional information we can confirm that:

The test requirements for partially bound openings are given in EN 1176-1:2017, 4.2.7.2 b) and are

dependent on the template insertion angle range. The closer the probe is to the horizontal (or below)

the lower the risk. As it can often be difficult to orientate the probe to be ‘in line with the opening’ the

angle of the lower edge can also be used as a reference point to determine what range should be

considered.

It is not within the terms of the interpretation panel to make judgements about compliance or

noncompliance of specific pieces of equipment. It can very problematic to make test interpretations

from photographs alone.
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4.5 Clause 4.7 of EN 1176-6:2017, Hand support (interpretation request 2018-06
Denmark)
MB Question:

The text in 4.7 of EN 1176-6:2017 regarding hand support, has been added with the word “cross

section”.

This could indicate an acceptance that the possibility to get “hand support” by a grip on the edge of the

equipment, could be sufficient support.
See Figure 9 a) and b). This product is TüV certified to Part 6 See-saw.
a) b)
Figure 9
MB Proposal

IP to provide an indication of the intent of the addition “/cross section” in 4.7 of EN 1176-6:2017.

PROPOSED TRACK : No Action
Comments/proposal for an answer:

I think it’s obvious that we have equipment for balancing, but where the user would choose to start

sitting and thus “see-sawing” while gaining courage to stand up.

I consider a grip on the edge as sufficient, and I think that the heading “Hand Support” is open enough,

but realize that if the added “cross section” is not intended to indicate this, a future revision may be

necessary.
4.6 Clause 4.2.4.4 and Figure 10 (interpretation request 2018-07 Denmark)
MB Question:

The text for Figure 10 c) of EN 1176-1:2017 has a reference to: ‘steep play elements wider than the

opening’.

Does this mean openings for steep play elements cannot be wider than the activity?

Compared with the 2008 version, the text for 4.2.4.4 is not modified and does not specify such a

requirement.
MB proposal

As texts for pictures are intended to be explanatory only and support the requirements in the text – not

specify additional requirements.

The below sketch (Figure 10) of a product with a net access with an angle α >60° and a width, w, less

than the total width of the opening is regarded as compliant.
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Figure 10
PROPOSED TRACK: No action
Comments/proposal for an answer:
EN 1176-1:2017, 4.2.4.4 has not changed from the 2008 version.

For steep play elements, there is no specific requirement for the width of the exit opening to be

restricted to be no greater than the width of the activity.

(This is only the case for stairs, ramps, bridges, etc. that have additional barriers as part of their

structure.)
4.7 Figure D.7 (Interpretation request 2018-10 — NEN)
MB Question:
a) b)
Figure 11 — Figure D.7 a) and b) of EN 1176-1:2017

During the inspection of indoor playgrounds, the test device as depicted in Figure D.7 a) of

EN 1176-1:2017 (see above Figure 11 a)) is required in order to inspect slides according to the

standard. However, it is unclear what the size, or to be more precise the height of the foot of this test

device should be. The standard refers to "20, 10" (see above, zoomed in). What should the exact height

of the foot be?
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